I have a Great-Aunt called Auntie Dolly. (It's her real name, but she got off lightly compared to Auntie Bapsy. Or, indeed, Uncle Jamshed.)
Auntie Dolly is a Jehovah's Witness. She doesn't know about the Atheist Bus Campaign, and I am not going to tell her, not least because she's in her 80s and I don't want to be held responsible for heart attacks and the like.
Like all Jehovah's Witnesses, Auntie Dolly believes that only 144,000 people will go to heaven when Armageddon comes, and these people will all be JWs. Unfortunately for everyone, there are 7.6 million Jehovah's Witnesses in existence, of which 7.46 million are apparently going someplace hotter.
Every weekday, Auntie Dolly calls my Nan (her sister) for an hour and tells her that, if she doesn't join the Jehovah's Witnesses, she is doomed to face eternal hellfire. My Nan is also in her 80s and is kind, gentle and unfortunately rather susceptible to this kind of dramatic prophecy.
She never tells Auntie Dolly, "I'm sorry, I'm a little too busy to talk today". Nor does she say, as I would, "Stop talking nonsense, woman! Even if I were to become a Jehovah's Witness, I'd only have a 1.89% chance of getting into paradise. Those aren't great odds, you've got to admit. Now go and do something fun with your life - you're 83, it's not like you've got forever!"
No: my Nan simply sits there, listening to Auntie Dolly's horror stories of wailing and gnashing of teeth, and gets more and more scared. She starts to tremble, wondering if her only remaining sister is in fact privy to the truth and the rest of us aren't. By the time my mother comes home from work,, my Nan is a gibbering wreck, pleading with my Mum, "But what if Dolly's right?!"
My mother then has to deprogram my Nan with an exasperated atheist lecture. "Of course she's not right! Do you really think that, if there is a God, he's going to create billions of people, only to punish all but a few of them forever at the end of their lives? What tosh!"
Then my Nan points out: "But nobody knows what happens after you die."
And that, I think, is the reason for all religion: the fact that we, as human beings, are uncomfortable with uncertainty. After all, the argument goes, if no one knows why we're here or what we're meant to do, we could conceivably be doing completely the wrong thing and be punished for it gravely. The unknown is terrifying if you've been indoctrinated to think about it in that way, and I don't blame elderly people (who are closer to the end of their lives) for worrying about it and wanting to fill that gap with certainty. Religion provides a comforting way out: "If you live your life like this, you'll be rewarded with eternal bliss."
But it's an utterly false certainty with hundreds of variations, none of which make sense or can be substantiated in any way, and all of which are thoroughly confusing (what if you choose the wrong religion or denomination?). And this "certainty" conundrum must be worse for people like my Nan who can't quite believe in any religion but have their doubts about atheism, than for people like Auntie Dolly who are doggedly following their own particular brand of nonsense. I wish I could convince both of them that these notions of Doomsday and retribution are ridiculous, with no evidence whatsoever pointing towards them - but they won't listen to me.
Maybe I need to campaign for some atheist stairlifts as well.
Wednesday, October 1, 2008
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I've got a niece called Lippy. And she's always lip-lipping about how I've failed to live up to my name.
Think yourself lucky. I have an Uncle Gorilla and an Auntie Chimpanzee!
If there are 7.6 million JWs, and only 144,000 places up for grabs, it does rather make you wonder why they're constantly recruiting for more followers. Surely they're reducing their already slim chance of getting into paradise?
Muhamad: I used to write for a character called Lippy (in the programme Space Pirates). It was a parrot and wouldn't stop talking. Maybe don't tell Lippy that though.
Duohedron: That would be like me having an Uncle Human...
Justin: Ah, but you see, they think that the more followers they recruit, the more likely they'll be to enter the Kingdom Of Heaven! A bit like a pyramid scheme. I guess they just have to hope that they don't recruit anyone who's especially good at recruiting.
"I guess they just have to hope that they don't recruit anyone who's especially good at recruiting."
Well, exactly! It's almost as if they haven't really thought this through rationally. Oh. Hang on...
((((Ariane))))
If you take the time to sit and listen to your aunt, then you would have learned that more than a 144,000 are blessed for their faithfulness.
Yes, Jehovah's Witnesses believe only 144,000 will go to heaven. The purpose of their going to heaven is to rule as kings and priests with Jesus Christ. Over what? Those millions who proved faithful to Jehovah's standards and who do HIS will, not their own. Those millions will enjoy eternal life on a PARADISE earth, residing with others who choose to God's will over man's. Thus fulfilling God's purpose to have the entire earth filled with righteous humans, that will live forever in paradise like conditions. Remember Adam made the choice to do what he wanted and ate of the fruit that God forbid, because the fallen angel Satan tempted him with that "he would know good and bad" (meaning doing things his own way). He lost eternal life for us all. And how has that worked out for us today???? Not so well. But, in the near future paradise like conditions and perfection will be restored to mankind. Your aunt has that firm belief and is trying to help your family benefit from that promise also. She loves you. Every human has free will to choose what they want to do, but those who will be blessed by God are the ones who choose to do things according to his standards. Those are ALL set out in the scriptures, it is an individual responsibility to learn what that is.
Hope that clears up any confusion that only a few get the benefits that God promises.
Hi (((Denise))),
Thanks a lot for clearing that up, and apologies for the mistake.
However, I'm currently running an atheist bus campaign, so I guess I won't be allowed to enjoy eternal life on a PARADISE earth. Never mind, eh?
Best wishes,
Ariane
PS Can I by any chance interest you in an atheist stairlift?
144,000 is a bit mean - they could at least have rounded it up to 150,000. In any case, aren't the places already allocated? You might as well forget it and enjoy a life of sin!
Also, there's a Stairlift to Heaven joke lying around somewhere, but I can't find it.
Ariane
I hope you don't mind me asking a personal question. Do you take any interest in Zoroastrianism? I think I remember reading that you have Parsi heritage?
Have you read 'Family Matters' by Rohinton Mistry? It's such an involving and sympathetic novel. Through the transformation over the narrative of one of the main characters, it really made me think about religion and family, the self-created boundaries around individuals that religion can catalyse, the impulse to certainty that probably resies in all of us, how this feeds into ritual and religion, the sense of loss that time brings, how this plays into the narrative of a person's life and their searce for meaning, the power of religion, the vulnerability and uncertainty that gives it such power, and the particular pressures and tensions that play out in a minority religious community, the responsibilities an individual may feel towards faith and preservation.
It's a very poignant work. Mistry is such a considerate and rich author.
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...the impulse to certainty that probably resides in all of us...
Hmmm, I'm curious, the chance (albeit a 1.86% chance) to rule supreme (plenty of minions to go round) is almost too much to resist! Though knowing my luck, I'll probably end up as one of the minions....
"Stairlift of heaven" sounds like a reasonable product line....
"He lost eternal life for us all."
And he never buys his own drinks...
Git.
I like Pascal's Wager........
Graham: "Stairlift To Heaven" is great. On the flipside, I don't think religious people do 'rounding up'.
Pablo: Thanks for such an indepth comment. No, I haven't read it, but I will now. I do have Parsi heritage (my mother is technically Zoroastrian) and as religions go, it's quite a peaceful one, but I relate to it historically rather than in any other way (as you've probably guessed by now!)
Josh: Stop it, you'll scare Denise! She doesn't want the competition. Anyhow, I think you should focus your efforts towards marketing these stairlifts with Graham. They're going to be huge.
BenSix: When have you ever bought Adam a drink? By the way, I like your ladybird.
Muhamad: You've just inspired my next post. Thanks!
Isn't "Stairlift To Heaven" one of the numbers that popular beat combo Led Zeppelin will be playing on their forthcoming tour?
Phil
PS. Jeez I hope they've thought to hire a tour bus that has one of those nifty disabled access doors.
"When have you ever bought Adam a drink?"
Well, after losing eternal life there was nowhere to turn except to drink.
Well, I don't wanna get deleted for mentioning illegal stuff but my view is that natural entheogenic substances do in some abstract way show us that there is not just something before and after this life, but also something in between.
Impossible to explain in words, but if I could positively influence the life of the (younger) Auntie Dolly's of this world I would think about ways to make the use of these plant extracts more socially acceptable.
I have always wondered why organised religion forbade them, which in turn means that modern governmence outlaws them.
After using such wonders myself (tho' not for some years now), I remain an agnostic friend of the atheists, respecter of the spiritual and disagreer with man-made religion. There is an afterlife, but we don't continue as we are...we are something very different.
That's all I know.
I should probably make it clear that entrance to this afterlife is not in any way dependant on using these plants...the impression I have is that we all continue in some strange melded fashion, regardless of what we as individuals do in this life.
My therapist told me...well, actually, I don't have a therapist, but if I did have a have therapist he/she might have asked me to do a 'to do' list, and one of the things to do would have to inspire someone. So, here we are, and what's more I've inspired someone who's a prepossessing individual.
Ariane,
No apologies necessary. And it's not for me to judge who will have eternal life on a paradise earth. We all make our own choices based on our life experiences and we all deal with both the positive and negative consequences of those choices. You are doing what you feel you must and I wish you the best on your journey. Thanks for offering the stairlift, but I will pass since it is not in harmony with my chosen journey in life.
Josh didn't scare me, it is all taken in stride and not a bother at all.
Thanks for the pleasant exchange, it was surprising.
Best wishes to all.......
Denise
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